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Thursday, October 2, 2008

Palin and Biden Debate

During the debate tonight, Sarah Palin provided specific details and examples and appeared confident and sharp when answering questions. Her powerful and straightforward approach offered viewers a fresh insight into a relatively unknown politician. She was definitive, passionate, respectful but firm. I felt her sincerity and genuine concern for this country. Her lively approach contrasted sharply with Joe Biden's soft tone and slow paced responses. WELL DONE GOVERNOR PALIN!!!

Although Joe Biden attacked John McCain at every corner during the debate, he also mentioned on several occasions that John McCain was a "good man" and Biden loved him. So I just wonder what is it then that Joe Biden finds redeeming in John McCain?

I only have one comment regarding Biden's performance tonight. Senator Biden calls redistribution of wealth "fairness." Fairness? People who work hard, accumulate wealth and succeed "must" share with those who don't have. That is his definition of fair? To give your wealth because you "want to" is one thing, but to have the "government" dictate what you keep and what you must give up is just too "Castro" for me. The greatest "fairness" the United States of America provides me and every other citizen of this country is something I call "opportunity." Many people in other countries only dream of such opportunity.


  1. Yeah, I picked up on that "fairness" crap, too.

    I'm sure it will also be considered fair when my immaculate health insurance (100 percent coverage, no deductibles) is stripped from me, only to be replaced by some junk, government-sponsored universal care garbage ("fair" because it causes us all to suffer equally).

  2. Thanks for the visit, Hawg. Here is what I think, in a nutshell.

    The US government MUST

    Reduce wasteful spending and live on a "real budget" with "real cash" dollars

    Keep government small and efficient

    Provide opportunities to Americans by respecting our right to "freedom"

    Maintain a healthy military (so I can enjoy my "freedom")

    Uphold the Constitution of the United States

    And keep government "as much as possible" out of my wallet

  3. My mom was a teacher of preschoolers and while a republican was in office stating no child should be left behind my mom took a paycut because her position was through the government and Headstart for poverty stricken children was cut. My mom made less than $15,000 when the government took away funding. In all my years of doing community service not once have I seen a republican in a school that had a gang or drug problem. I know of a democrat who was in that school and took time out of his schedule for young adults that believe in community service. I live in poverty and I am well off because we don't go nutty. I just saw a video of a family who was middle class and are now homeless. Their house was taken away. Public housing is too full and there is litterally nowhere for their small child to live. If my family made the kind of money to worry about taxes. I would be more than happy to pay them. I have lived on $10,000 on my own comfortably and now $20,000 any more is something to be greatful for. In Cleveland, Ohio the public school system is poor because no one wants to pay taxes. It's heartbreaking because year after year levies have failed and the system has failed the children. School books are ripped and tattered with missing pages and kids don't usually get to take them home there aren't enough to go around. Some part of the USA are wonderful but their are places where I know kids who have been murdered because of the clothes they wear because it's all about money. The teacher just don't care nor do the parents. I know I'm pushing my views on you. I don't know if you understand how the other half lives. We all hate assistance and I don't know anybody who wants that walk to DHHR or The Salvation Army. I do know this that were I to find cancer tomorrow in my body I would most deffianetly die. My children have insurance but my husband and I don't. That is the reality I face every day. That is the reality I hope and pray never comes. As we try to better ourselves we are an emergency room visit away from losing everything we have fought so hard obtain.

  4. Super post! You and I are on the same page. Palin is genuine in her prime reason for being in politics and that is to return the focus of government on appreciating and trusting the people of America. Isn't it wonderful to see a politician emote happiness? It can only happen when they are truly happy with themselves and the country they serve.

  5. He also lied on 14 different points. He made a fool out of himself with his facs while she answered questions also.

    Please see our campaign’s response to Joe Biden’s debate performance tonight. During the debate, Joe Biden lied more than a dozen times by our count:

    "Joe Biden graduated from his trademark verbal gaffe to outright lie in tonight’s debate. Each time Senator Biden was on his heels, he looked directly into the camera and lied -- more than a dozen times by our count. He lied about John McCain's record, his own record, and Barak Obama's dangerous policies. Governor Palin showed the American people tonight why a McCain-Palin Administration will bring real reform, leadership, and straight talk to Washington.” --Tucker Bounds, spokesman McCain-Palin 2008


    1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

    2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

    3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

    4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

    5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

    6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

    7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

    8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.

    9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

    10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

    11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

    12. TAX INCREASES : Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

    13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

    14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.

  6. The starting point for Palin was one of low expectations. Due to her inability to answer questions and put forward any type of a platform in her Couric interview only Republicans expected expected much from Palin in the debate. All she had to do was show up and appear to be brighter than she was in the interview to do better than previously and she did that. She was folksy and warm but she had no substance other than what she found in her notes. When she did consult her notes and stick to her script she did very well. But, on several occasions she failed to answer questions at all and instead steered the dialog elsewhere.

    Both candidates gave predictable answers on the Wall Street crisis and each claimed their running mate had warned of the dangers of the sub-prime lending boom. Regardless of the artificial posturing from McCain that almost led to cancellation of the first debate, we do know that McCain was not recognized as fulfilling a leadership role by other Republicans in the rescue and bail out package. And Plain certainly appeared not to have anything to offer on the economic front either.

    On Iraq, there was a substantial discussion, but most of the disagreement concerned the past. Palin used her good line accusing Obama and Biden of wanting to "run up the white flag of surrender" in Iraq, but the truth there is not that much difference in the formal positions of the campaigns, on Iraq. Only McCain has been foolish enough to state he expects "victory" in Iraq.

    In the final analysis, Palin's folksy warmness didn't convince me that she is qualified, capable or competent enough to be Vice Presidential material.

  7. My wife and I watched the debate last night, and thought Sarah Palin was great. She has that one thing you can't teach - charisma.

    I also appreciate your list of Biden's falsehoods. In the day and age of the Internet and 24 hour news, how does someone think they can get away with something like that?

    In the end, they lose credibility.

  8. Hey only thing Palin proved tonight was that she was capable of reading and regurgitating the information written for her on the notecards in front of her. The McCain advisors had written responses to every question they believed might come up. The questions for which she had no prewritten responses were the very question which she decided to answer her own questions and not allow Gwen or any one dictate which questions she would answer.

    Listen, I understand the right worships at the altar uf intellectual mediocrity, but a wink, a smile, and a couple of "Ya Betcha"'s thrown in doesn't even qualify as mediocrity.

    One good follow up question, or insistence that she answer unanswered questions would have revealed the abject incompetence which had been on display the previous week in Palin's Katie Couric interviews.

    Ya know (wink) the strange thing about truth is that it tends to have a liberal spin:)

  9. Have these and my reactions on my site too. Your pov's are real. Dropped EC's for you btw and visited your site, would you care to visit mine? Thanks!

  10. I just do not think that the McCain/Palin combination can take USA to the next level.They are just like the Bush/Cheney combination or even worse.

  11. Marcueto I have to disagree. As a foreigner I didn't find her sharp at all. In fact I found her as a prospective VP rather frightening.

    Her response to the VP question was empty and uninformed.

    Her assertions about McCain so called suspension of his campaign to help rescue the economy after the debacle last week just sounded well weak. Does anyone really buy that? Where I come from McCain bombed terrible with that strategy.

    Her failure to answer the questions and her assertions that she really wouldn't answer made me feel that she let the American public down. I suspect that she did little to sway Independents but perhaps retained her base.

  12. Shirley

    I have great respect for you and I respect and accept your opinions. They are your reality, your truth but my reality and my truth is different. The great thing about this country is that you and I do not need to agree. And I hope that you will always feel comfortable stating your disagreements here. My goal with this blog is to initiate discussions, questions and analysis. I do not want ever to tell anyone "what to think" but I will always work hard to remind everyone "to think."

    The story you write about here in your comment is a story I know well, for even though I am blessed with a middle class life today, it was not always so for me or for my family. I am the daughter of poverty, of hand me downs and doing without. I owe my accomplishments to my parents, to the good people I met along the way and to my own determination. I believe in pursuing my dreams, in reaching for the impossible and getting there by own will. You and I are not that different.

    Hi Cy

    It's great to find solidarity in the blogosphere. Some say we are the minority, but I want to believe we are the silent majority. I am not ashamed of being a Conservative American, and I am proud of my country and its people.

    Thanks for the info STYX

    I joined the McCain team, so I get emails with clarifications all the time too. Lying seems so easy for Obama and Biden though. Then, you wonder why Sarah Palin has such a hard time answering some questions. I think she prefers not having to lie and so chooses to say nothing. I appreciate your visit and hope you will return.

  13. Good to hear from you Timethief

    Ah...the beauty of freedom!Your comments are always welcomed here even though I disagree with you.

    Hi Paul
    Thanks for stopping by and yes Palin is charismatic, but I think she has more important qualities as well. She, like McCain, is a straight shooter. (no pun intended) I am tired of the lies and the pretense that most politicians seem to thirst for. Most importantly, I trust her and McCain much more than I do the Dem. candidates, specifically when it comes to keeping this country safe.

    Hi Politi Gal

    Ah freedom is grand!!! Thank you for providing us with the other side.

    Welcome Kumagcow
    Thanks for the visit.

    Hi Clement
    Thanks for the visit. If you return and read this I would love to hear some of your examples?

  14. Hi Dee

    Thanks for the visit. I respect your opinions and welcome different points of view. True, Palin doesn't have 30 or 40 years of experience like the other career politicians. It's been a while since we have had a "regular person" in the Whitehouse. Ah!!! I look forward to it.

  15. Hi Dear Mar,

    I wanted to comment on this but first my computer would not play the videos as it's too slow and the files were too big (takes forever to load) so then I read what everyone wrote and found it fascinating and wonderful that everyone could have a different opinion. We are blessed as friends and Americans that we can do that here on this page. And then when I was done I could not leave an intelligent comment in specific response to this post as my brain feels like much right now from really long work days lately, seven days a week. But the thing that stood our for me was when you wrote this:

    "I do not want ever to tell anyone "what to think" but I will always work hard to remind everyone "to think.""

    I love that and it is true about you. Thank you for allowing all these fascinating and wonderful comments to diversity in life. I admire and like that.


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